In this episode of What the Midwife Said, Leah chats to Tinuke Awe and Clo Abe who co-founded Five X More in response to a 2018 report that found that black women in the UK are five times more likely to die during pregnancy than white women. The two mothers came together with the ambition of improving maternal mortality rates and health care outcomes for black women in the UK. Join the conversation on social media using #whatthemidwifesaid and follow @whatmidwifesaid on Twitter for podcast updates.